Freer mathematics

March 18, 2009 susettepalmer

Fed up with his constant allegations that the Lib. Dem group had more allowances in their salary per person than thery should, I instigated a little research. Per person 2007/8   Conservatives average salary of £19,796 per Councillor. Lib Dems Average Salary of £14, 103.


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  • 1. Boombastic  |  April 13, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    So Tories average £5k per Councillor more than the Lib Dems. They are the ruling administration while the ‘opposition’ parties sit back and do nothing but sulk and moan. What exactly do you add of value in exchange for your healthy allowance? Have you foregone your increase in allowance for this financial year?

    • 2. susettepalmer  |  April 14, 2009 at 9:41 am

      I think you missed the point. The point is that Cllr Freer is always berating us for having more than average -as the figures show we don’t. As to my added value I do as much as the administration allows. I sit on licencing committees equally with administration Councillors and I deal with my groups secretarial matters as do the other group secretaries…it actually doesn’t matter how many people you email it is still 1 email. I follow up what is happening with COuncil policy and have discussions with COuncil Officers. I have been and will continue to be active with regards to the Borough’s looked after children. As a member for the most numerous ward I deal with my residents complaints and problems. Because we are only 6 we have to speak more often in Council and that needs research to be effective. We do not have a policy officer to do that.
      Actually your question shows a lack of comprehension about democracy. Decmocracy needs an opposition otherwise it is an elective dictatorship. I certainly don’t sit back and sulk-, fight back certainly and do my best for my residents. Surely that is what we are elected for?
      In the final analysis the people of Childs Hill think that their 3 COuncillors are added value or they wouldn’t keep electing us.

  • 3. andrea bouras  |  May 20, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    I like your stance on democracy and the need for an opposition.In my view,this does not and should not only apply in party politics, but to every aspects of our social life.

    This is why, I am a bit puzzled by your lack of open support in my fight for democracy/ accounts transparency and best practice on the Childs Hill Allotment.

    Allotments are a very small concern.

    But, principles matter, not the nature or size of a given problem.

    As for your final analysis,I hope you do realize that your argument is flawed. Repeat voting has very little to do with conscious reasoning about the added value offered by the candidates but more to do with the force of habit and the lack of alternatives.

    • 4. susettepalmer  |  May 26, 2009 at 9:04 am

      I have to consider both sides of the allotment argument. I feel that the committee members have valid points as well. Also the whole position of allotments in Barnet is something the current administration and the allotment association have been considering for some time and I am not party to those discussions though I see the Barnet Federation Association Minutes.
      You are, of course, right about voting habits. I suggest that the lack of alternatives has been compounded by the ‘easy option’ of national party voting in national politics. It is not however always paramount as you can see in Childs Hill where a naturally Tory majority ward electes Liberal Democrat Councillors.

      • 5. andrea bouras  |  May 31, 2009 at 6:20 pm

        Should one be submitted to the payment of a fee to exercise one’s right to vote?

        Prior to an election, would you accept/tolerate to have Michael Freer being sent all votes or nominations at his private address?
        Would you find it acceptable to have him sorting out the nominations papers then, on election day, standing up,give a list of names and declaring that these people have been elected unchallenged?

        Do you really believe that ,considering the way these so-called elections are carried out, the people sitting on these committee have been ‘democratically elected’?

        Which is your position regarding the 2/3 thousands pounds payment to the allotment to reward the plot-holders for paying their rent?

        The Greenspaces team is paid to do the job.Why can’t they do it?

        The cashier at the Town Hall is paid to collect the money owed to the Council.
        Why does the Greenspaces team gives away thousands of pounds when the money is greatly needed elsewhere,like paying for wardens in old people homes or for sports facilities?

      • 6. susettepalmer  |  June 12, 2009 at 8:48 am

        I do think everyone should have a vote at an open AGM.
        With regard to the Open Spaces \team the current Tory Administration has cut them down to such an extent they are very overstretched and the ‘restructuring’ is still ongoing so things are likely to get worse not better.

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